(The MadAss is finally getting a much needed kick in the pants)
Jim, over at P-Town Scooters, has posted the first photos of the Sachs MadAss with 72cc kit. The $340 kit includes air filter, front sprocket, carburetor, exhaust manifold, head, sleeve, piston, gaskets & sparkplug. Currently the expected results are more heat off the line, better hill climbing and a sustained top speed of 45 MPH. Not bad, not bad.
We’ll see what the boys over at P-Town give it as a final verdict in the next week or two.
Thanks for the scoop guys! (Click on the title link to see the kit on the table and a close up of the kitted engine.)
PS> Don’t look for the 125cc version of the MadAss anytime soon. Still trying to get the details from Tomberlin. I’ll have to try by phone, cause my emails appear to be falling right into the ‘ignore’ bucket right now.
1. October 2006 at 4:59 pm
There are now TWO modification options for the MadAss:
[1] 72cc kit
[2] De-restricting the Sachs MadAss 50 (electronic governor extraction):
http://www.ptownscooters.com/projects.htm#madass
I’m curious about the performance gains on each method. Also, I’ve heard that Sachs is having financial troubles and may be out of business. I’m concerned that we may never see the 125cc or parts for the 50cc. Do you have any information on the status of Sachs? Finally, I hope that white ‘Tomberline’ is a sticker and easily removable. It’s ugly and distracting from the black/red color scheme.
1. October 2006 at 9:18 pm
Competition for the Piaggio MP3? A Yamaha three-wheeler:
http://static.blogo.it/motoblog/xs650trike.jpg
2. October 2006 at 6:25 pm
Bwahah! Maybe!
I hope they find more success than these guys:
http://www.maxmatic.com/ttw_moto.htm
There’s some very creative solutions in there.
3. October 2006 at 3:27 am
Hey Dudel,
Here’s what I hear/know so far…
1) 72cc Kit will give you a solid 45 MPH.
2) De-restriction is supposed to give you a casual 40 MPH.
3) Financial troubles? Yes. Out of business? Eh, to some degree. Will we see the 125? Sure! Parts for the 50cc? How so? I think one day you’ll find Tomberlin is more than just a distributor of Sachs. I’m speculating here, but I’m thinking “owner” will be a more accurate description of their relationship.
4) Tomberlin sticker is distracting and easy to remove. I believe Sach stickers can be purchased aftermarket or easily reproduced at your local print shop.
whew! That should qualify as my post for the day.
3. October 2006 at 6:39 pm
Do you know if the X-Keleton Trickster is manufactured in the same factory as the Sachs Madass, as the Ebay listings for the Trickster claim (actually, they say it’s made in the same factory as the “Zachs Madass”)? The difference in price between the two is considerable. I do realize the Madass is sold at genuine brick-and-mortar dealerships who actually service what they sell, and support after the sale is worth alot.
Also, does the 72cc kit fit both the manual transmission Madass and the CVT model? Seems though it should, but I’ve found that whenever I assume something, I’m usually wrong.
3. October 2006 at 11:38 pm
Yup – the 72cc kits bolt right up to both the manual 4 speed and the automatic CVT (we’ve already installed kits on both transmissions).
Nice thing is that since these kits are supplied directly from Tomberlin, they DO NOT void the 1 year warranty.
23. November 2006 at 5:26 pm
Previous management taking over Sachs
On 3 November 2006 the insolvency administrator, Mr. Volker Böhm of Schultze & Braun, has come to an agreement with Sachs management on a management buy-out solution (MBO) and has signed the appropriate purchase contract. The insolvency proceedings are therefore expected to be completed by December 2006.
At the same time this decision was taken, the announcement was made that neither of the two groups of prospective investors, with whom the insolvency administrator had held intensive discussions in the course of the past weeks, was given the award. The MBO solution came into play at a rather late stage, says the insolvency administrator, and now the company will be carried on by its previous management and its workforce. They managed to raise the purchase price with the help of a lender and have already paid the purchase price to the insolvency administrator. This sum will now be part of the insolvent estate and will soon be paid out to the creditors, says the insolvency administrator.
Sine the time the request to open insolvency proceedings has been filed on 28 June 2006, the insolvency administrator has not only continued the company, but has put it in a position to develop new vehicle models in addition to its existing range which have attracted a great deal of attention at this year’s international Intermot fair in Cologne. The company’s management which is expected to take over on 1 January 2007 also has new plans for developing motor scooters and motor-assisted bicycles designed to secure Sachs� long-term market position.
The acquisition and purchase concept also provides for the continued employment of 33 of the 44 strong workforce. Business operations will continue at the same location as before. Close ties with suppliers in Europe and, above all, in Asia are expected to create a sound basis for remaining competitive in the market. Motorcycles with a cubic capacity of below 125 cc are sold under the Sachs marque. The company also imports and markets Voxan motorcycles with a cubic capacity of as much as 1,000 cc.
Sachs Fahrzeug- und Motorentechnik GmbH is the successor company of the Nuremberg-based Hercules Werke GmbH which was established in 1886 and which this year celebrates its 120 years of existence.
Background information:
The term management buy-out (MBO) describes the majority acquisition and purchase of a company by its previous management. The capital required by the acquisition and purchase is raised either from the private assets of the members of the management team or from a bank or other financial investors.
2. June 2007 at 10:43 pm
well 72cc is ok but i went to my a local dealer in motovert and got a 125cc engine for my sach 50cc and it rocks! i can do 90klm and if i got a more beefy muffler and larger front sprocket i could be pushing 110klm but 90 is fine for now.
3. September 2007 at 2:36 pm
Hi,
In regard to the de-restriction project for the Madass. Has anyone run into a different wiring configuration? I took mine apart yesterday and it ‘looks’ like the system is either wired without the limiter, or the bastards tucked it up inside the frame!! I was wondering if anyone has tried to do the project and ran into this issue? I wasn’t ready to drop the engine on a brand new unit, at least without knowing what lurks up in there…
13. March 2008 at 1:03 am
hi
just bought a sachs badass,doesnt seem to have rev limiter on it.do they all have them from new.?is there any quick mods i can do.? ie carb,air filter and where would i buy from ? many thanks .sorry for lots of questions.great bike.
cheers wayne
3. April 2008 at 4:25 pm
Hey guys if someone could email me at: tannerday@netscape.net about this sachs madass thatd be great. i just got one yesterday and it has the 72cc upgrade kit but it still seems slow and i wanna make it faster. anyone know anything about upgradades for this bike. maybe headlights like xenon’s too? anything will help. thanks.